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Blog entry posted by Siegfried Zaytsev, Dec 27, 2017.

(diē Iovis, ante diem quīntum kalendās iānuāriās annō bis mīllēsimō septimō decimō post Christum nātum)
  • Perūvia est nātiō in Americā Austrālī situāta. In Perūviā vīciēns ac trecentiēns centēna mīlia hominum habitant.
  • Āfrica Austrālis est austrālissima cīvitās Āfricāna. Āfrica Austrālis nōn ūnum sed tria capita habet. Āfricam Austrālem quīnquāgiēns ac quīngentiēns centēna mīlia hominum incolunt.
  • Palaestīna est nātiō in Āsiā occidentālī cuius caput est Hierosolyma vel Hierūsalēm. Palaestīnae In Palaestīnā quadrāgiēns ac quīnquiēs centēna mīlia hominum habitant.
  • Venetiola est nātiō in septentriōnālī Americae Austrālis lītore collocāta. In Venetiolā paene vīciēns ac trecentiēns centēna mīlia hominum habitant.
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Siegfried Zaytsev

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Practicing writing in Latin. Please point out mistakes if you notice any. Thanks!
  1. Pacifica
    My earlier reference was to Latin Wiktionary, but it's the same thing. Don't trust Vicipaedia either. Although I don't use it often, in the few articles I've looked at pretty much all contained mistakes. They are not always written by the best Latinists (and even if they were, they would still not be the primary authorities for Latin, but these would remain the Roman authors). So, the moral here is: neither Latin Wiktionary nor Vikipedia should be followed as an example or cited as evidence of the correctness of such and such Latin construction. Any information about Latin grammar, vocabulary or idiom that you may find in them should be double-checked in a good dictionary that quotes examples from good ol' authentic Latin texts by Roman authors, or with a corpus search and such things.
  2. Adrian
    Siegfried, I believe Pacifica warned you earlier that Latin Vicipaedia is not 100% reliable source of reference. The author simply translated literally the content from
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa .
  3. Siegfried Zaytsev
    Thank you for your explanations/corrections. I borrowed "Āfrica Austrālis est austrālissima cīvitās Āfricāna" from Latin Wikipedia article (first sentence): https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_Australis.
  4. Adrian
    Thanks Pacifica for noticing my error(s), I appreciate you keep watch over my mishaps :)
  5. Pacifica
    Indeed, there is no locative for names of countries (former provinces). I don't know why Wiktionary keeps giving imaginary locatives, grrr. Stop trusting it, on this point at any rate.

    Other things:

    If you're aiming at classical Latin, "sita" is better than "situata". Now, if you don't mind late Latin, the latter is OK.

    I don't think "australis" has an attested superlative and it sounds a bit weird. I would sooner say something like "maxime ad Austrum sita", or what Adrian suggested looks fine as well.

    Adrian, you made a little gender mistake: "cui non modo unus sed tria capita sunt" ---> that should be "unuM" to agree with "caput".
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  6. Adrian
    Pacifica and I provided you already with infomation on Roman Locative case. I did a quick cross-check on latin texts, I wasn't able to find locative cases used in reference to roman provinces (at least to Aegyptus, Syria) - I mean genitive forms or bare ablative without preposition.
  7. Siegfried Zaytsev
    Thank you, Adrian! I used the locative because both the English and Latin versions of Wiktionary give the locative form for "Palaestīna". And I just checked "Iūdaea"; it also has one in the English Wiktionary. Maybe the locative case also works for Roman provinces?
  8. Adrian
    Just my personal note: (on RSA) Africa Australis sive Republica Africae Australis est civitas sui iuris in extrema meridiana parte continentis Africani sita/locata; cui non modo unum sed tria capita sunt. Also "In Palestina" - locative refers to Towns, Cities and some Islands (already mentioned erlier)

 

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