I've mostly heard it in philosophical contexts (which is how I interpret the OP's phrase)."ex nihilo nihil fit" sounds to me more like "if you don't try, you'll never make it"
I've mostly heard it in philosophical contexts (which is how I interpret the OP's phrase)."ex nihilo nihil fit" sounds to me more like "if you don't try, you'll never make it"
I agree, sh*t!"ex nihilo nihil fit" sounds to me more like "if you don't try, you'll never make it"
@Bitmap and if you think about my reason, do you agree with nihil fit sine causa?LEAR (…) what can you say to draw a third more opulent than your sisters? Speak.
CORDELIA Nothing, my lord.
LEAR Nothing!
CORDELIA Nothing.
LEAR Nothing will come of nothing. Speak again.
CORDELIA Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave my heart into my mouth. I love your Majesty according to my bond; no more nor less.[2]
(I. 1.)
Well, now I'm wondering. Come to think of it, the original phrase could mean either:I know.
I think of it as the former.
That's how some people argued ... even 12 years ago ..."Everything happens for a reason" -> "nothing can occur without some cause"
That's how I understand it."Everything happens for a reason" -> "there is some ultimate rationale/purpose/end for the sake of which everything that happens, happens."
I understand it as 2) as well. In both cases I understand "some reason" as opposed to "no reason".Well, now I'm wondering. Come to think of it, the original phrase could mean either:
"Everything happens for a reason" -> "nothing can occur without some cause"
or
"Everything happens for a reason" -> "there is some ultimate rationale/purpose/end for the sake of which everything that happens, happens."
It is more easily and exactly what I mean with this quote. It can be an unspecified reason which can be changed to specified over time!I could see someone understanding #2 in the sense of "certain [unspecified] reason" more easily, though.
Really? When I hear "for a reason" my instinctive interpretation is that the point is that there is a reason for whatever thing is being talked about, as opposed to there being no reason, it being just random.I could see someone understanding #2 in the sense of "certain [unspecified] reason" more easily, though.
Yes.Really?
I cannot agree. Unspecified reason does not mean random reason.Really? When I hear "for a reason" my instinctive interpretation is that the point is that there is a reason for whatever thing is being talked about, as opposed to there being no reason, it being just random.
I've never said it did.Unspecified reason does not mean random reason.
Please give me like on this post if you all agree with nihil fit sine causa, thank you!!
I am sorry, I was confused by "it just being random" but I understand now.I've never said it did.
What I'm saying is that I interpret "for a reason" as the opposite of "for no reason". When I hear "for a reason" I take the point to be that there is a reason.
For instance "everything happens for a reason" to me means "things don't happen for no reason", "things don't happen randomly".
I think no one around me understands Latin so perfect to argue with me if the first or the second should be applied to my tattoo, haha. Based on this, do you agree with it? Better than omnia causa fiunt?Nihil fit sine causa was originally written in a different context: with reference to cause and effect (as in, say, the cause of a glass breaking being the fact that it was dropped) rather than final causes/purposes/aims (as in, say, the reason of some shit happening being that God wanted to teach someone a lesson). But I guess there's no reason why it couldn't, in theory, also work for the second meaning.
Yes, it should work.I think no one around me understands Latin so perfect to argue with me if the first or the second should be applied to my tattoo, haha. Based on this, do you agree with it?
Most definitely!Better than omnia causa fiunt?
I know, but the sentence on its own, without any context, can be taken in a lot of ways.Nihil fit sine causa was originally written in a different context
Yes.I know, but the sentence on its own, without any context, can be taken in a lot of ways.
LOLomnia fato fiunt Cic.