Should the UK vote to leave the EU?

I have a vote and I'm voting to remain 4 vote(s) 18.2%
I have a vote and I'm voting to leave 2 vote(s) 9.1%
I have a vote and I'm undecided 0 vote(s) 0.0%
I have no vote, but would vote to remain 7 vote(s) 31.8%
I have no vote, but would vote to leave 5 vote(s) 22.7%
I have no vote, and don't know what I'd do 3 vote(s) 13.6%
I never participate in polls like this 1 vote(s) 4.5%
  1. Pacifica grammaticissima

    • Civis Illustris
    Let's all be friends. Peace and love.

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  2. Hawkwood .

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    Just for the record, I'm not a national socialist or a communist and never have been.

    I was merely responding to that article.
  3. Pacifica grammaticissima

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    I don't think you are.

    That was a joke.
  4. Hawkwood .

    • Civis
    It is slightly amusing and bizarre. Is it a still from a cartoon? A tongue-in-cheek one I assume.
  5. Pacifica grammaticissima

    • Civis Illustris
    I don't actually know where it's from, but it looks like manga or anime.
  6. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    I'm all for them, but you seem to be restricting 'far-right' to full-on racist Nazi types, the ones into ethnic cleansing. That's up to you and your idiolect, but others may use the word differently. And, as I said, right and left as designations aren't always as helpful, or as fixed, as you appear to assume they are.

    But this is a thread about Brexit, so if one wanted to explore the issue further, perhaps a separate thread would be better. I wonder if a mod's thread-splitting fingers are twitching somewhere. And the wonderful thing about Brexit is that allows people from everywhere on the political spectrum to spout their innermost inanities.
  7. Hawkwood .

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    Agreed and I'll grant you have a point there, however I still think it's lazy journalism. I shall look-up the dictionary definition of 'far-right'.

    Ergo we have catogorizations to aid us, which serves to reinforce my point.

    I think not. Although I suspected my response (which in fairness to myself was one of a few) to her piece might serve as bait to a potential godwinsome exchange, I reckon it's not worth pursuing tbh. It's a Latin thread after all.
  8. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    To be pedantic, it's a Brexit thread in the Non-Latin Talk section of a Latin forum.

    So where are we? The PM has, paradoxically, unified practically everyone with her deal, which attempts to minimise the damage, but is viewed as not quite as good as remaining as an actual member state by one side and a fudge by the other, even with the sop of pandering to xenophobia by ending freedom of movement. If the deal is rejected, do we go out with no deal, which is generally acknowledged to be stupid, or contrive a way to remain? Nobody really knows, and perhaps it all becomes more interesting if you really believe that this is all being orchestrated by an unseen cabal, ensuring that nobody can leave the EU as part of their fiendish plan...
  9. Hawkwood .

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  10. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    Are you telling us May is being controlled by, you know, Them? In which case it would be fascinating to hear more. But perhaps you are merely admiring her beauty, or shyly admitting you now realise remaining in the EU is rather a good idea. Lots of people who originally voted for self-harm are feeling a bit sheepish, after all.

    But you've reminded me that we all like pictures, so here's one to work out the possibilities after next week's vote. With lots of pictures of May.

  11. Hawkwood .

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    Zooms! You might be drinking too much coffee, madam.

    I was referencing the last paragraph of your penultimate post in the thread. It was merely a lighthearted poke using the imagery of the Remainer charged with ensuring the UK does not remain.

    Who are 'them' who're 'controlling' her? The EU?
  12. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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  13. Pacifica grammaticissima

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    This one is so badly written it's almost art.
  14. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    This may only be tangentially related, but I've never worked out why the alleged masters of the world should be so obsessed by these mysterious symbols. The whole point of a secret sign would seem to be to signal to others in the conspiracy that you're one of them without outsiders noticing. There's not much point here, where presumably the participants know each other, and all it does is give the game away. So unless you believe that there's some arcane power in the symbols themselves, which ramps up the implausibility level, it's hard to see why anyone would do it.
  15. Hawkwood .

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    I gave a fellow driver a sign of my own after he began beeping his horn at me in a driving lane on friday afternoon. It wasn't much of a cryptic one and it seemed to do the trick.

    I've had a few bust-ups in this job thus far but I refuse to walk on egg shells because drivers assume they can treat me like crap due to my uniform. I've paid back with interest every time thus far either verbally or by using a sign.
  16. Terry S. flamen

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    Now that you've mastered the signs, you need to work on the funny handshakes.
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  17. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    Anyway, if you want to know how it's all a vast conspiracy, have a look at this map. Though how the rulers of the universe can't cover their tracks any better remains a mystery.
  18. Adrian Civis Illustris

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    Just my personal impression (based on reading online articles and watching excerpts from TV News);
    neither Primeminister May nor conservatists nor labour party have any concrete plan or at least concept how to prevent english economy and finances from post-exit [crisis/ difficulties]
    Last edited by Adrian, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:14 AM
  19. Etaoin Shrdlu Civis Illustris

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    It's a question of damage limitation, isn't it? Let's not shoot ourselves in the head, but only the foot. What do you mean, put down the gun? The people voted to shoot themselves, so we have to do it!

    But watching the Conservative Party imploding is great fun. The government became the first in British history to be found in contempt of Parliament, May funked the vote on her hated deal despite having robotically insisted it would go ahead, and now faces a challenge from the more rabid of her party. Whether she holds on or not, it doesn't look very good.
  20. Hawkwood .

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    We're the fifth largest economy in the world by GDP. I'm sure no feet would have been injured if we had created a proper brexit cabinet in the first place, as I alluded to in 2016 instead of leaving it to politicians with ideological and financial interests in remaining.

    Unfortunately the westminster derailments and media scaremongering are to be expected in this current climate.

    But I agree, it is quite satisfying watching the conservative (in name only) party implode.

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