Daedalus Atheniensis fuit artifex omnium notissimus...

By FelixD, in 'Latin to English Translation', Apr 13, 2010.

  1. FelixD New Member

    Hi, I got homework to translate this text but I don't know anything... :S I'm also new to this forums so hello everyone! :) Can someone translate this text for me? I need it done for tommorow, the text is short and as far as I can tell its a story about Dedal and Icar. :) Sorry for my bad english, I'm 16 years old and english is not my mother language. :)

    De Daedalo et Icaro

    Please help, thanks in advance!
  2. Cinefactus Censor

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    It is the story of Daedalus and Icarus, which has been paraphrased from Ovid's Metamorphoses VIII. Maybe if you look up the story it might give you some hints.
  3. FelixD New Member

    Re: School Project, please help soon! :)

    I know, but I need was given a homework to trasnlate it. And I don't even know how to say "My name is FelixD" in latin. xD Please help...
  4. Chamaeleo New Member

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    Well, we are not going to do your homework for you, and you apparently cannot do it for yourself. So, it will not be done. You will have to tell your teacher that you don’t know where to start. Who knows how you fell so far behind. A private tutor is probably your only solution.
  5. FelixD New Member

    Re: School Project, please help soon! :)

    Problem is that if I dont do this homework, I fail the grade. Its a little complicated, in my country(serbia) we dont have "private teachers" and things like that. Teachers are not really teaching - they just give you what to study etc. I fell behind in Latin classes cause I changed the school last year and in my previous school, we didn't have Latin. So practicaly I missed 2 years of Latin studying. I just need help on this one. I tried using the dictionary but I fail at grammar correcting and I don't know what time is used when. :S Please help, I have 7 hours left for it.
  6. FelixD New Member

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    Ok, here's what I've done so far using dictionary(not online translator, but it will probably have as many mistakes as if I used the one lol :mrgreen: ). I'll be very very gratefull if someone could correct this text in the next 2 hours. Bold text is something I'm 99% sure its incorrect in some way.

    Please, help me finish this or I'll probably fail the grade...
  7. Cinefactus Censor

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    Daedalus Atheniensis fuit artifex omnium notissimus, qui multas artes a dea Athena accepisse dicitur multaque instrumenta invenisse. Is nepotem suum et adiutorem, qui primus serram invenerat, summo tecto deiecit, ira et invidia incensus. Ob id scelus, ut poenas subterfugeret, exul in insulam Cretam abiit, ubi Minos regnabat. Rex Daedalum rogavit ut Minotauro, monstro humano corpore et taurino capite, carcerem aedificaret. Sic artifex Labyrinthum fecit, aedificum permagnum, in quo innumerabiles errores et viae implicatae impediebant ne monstrum effugeret.

    Daedalus wasn't just a famous artisan, he was notissimus omnium
    artes is more like skills or sciences
    perhaps used learned for accepisse
    dicitur means: It is said that
    invenisse means invented
    nepotem is nephew
    serram is saw, ie a saw for cutting wood
    He didnt burn his nephew he summo tecto deiecit, because he himself was ira et invidia incensus
    He was not exiled for the crime, left ut poenas suterfugeret
    regnabat is ruled, not rules
    it is an aedificium permagnum
  8. FelixD New Member

    Re: School Project, please help soon! :)

    I'm totally confused now. How do I correct it???
  9. FelixD New Member

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    Daedalus the Athenian wasn't just a famous artisan, It is said that many things he invented, he accepted it from goddess of Athena. In anger and jelousy, when he saw his nephews, who also was his apprentice, first great art, he burned him. Because of his crime, as a punishment he was banished to the island of Crete, where Minos ruled. King asks Daedalus to make a jail for Minotaur, monstruos humanoid made from bull. So the maker, built a maze, including therefore countless deceptions and a road full of obstacles, so monster doesnt run away.

    Is it better now? And those bolded words, what do I do with them? Using this dictionary of mine, I get the same result... Tnx for help btw.

    EDIT: Changed "rules" to "ruled". :)
  10. Cinefactus Censor

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    No, it is no better. You need to reread the comments I made.
    dicitur refers to both multas artes a dea... and multaque instrumenta.... that is what the que in multaque refers to

    nepotem is singular not plural.

    Consider what incensus means. Who is incensus. By what.

    As I said, he was not banished, he abiit as an exul, ut poenas suberfugeret
  11. FelixD New Member

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    I'm having a fight with my dictionary at the moment :)

    notissimus = well known, famous
    omnium = everything, each
    notissimus omnium = well known by all?

    summo = end, last
    tecto = protect, defend
    deiecit = pushed
    Summo tecto deiecit = ???
    In the story about Dedal and Icar, he pushed his nephew over the cliff, but I dont know how to translate this... :(

    aedificium = built, building
    permagnum = great
    aedificium permagnum = great building?

    Daedalus the Athenian was famous maker well known by all, it is said that much science he invented, he learned it from the goddess of Athena. Because he was burning inside of anger and jelousy, when he saw his nephew first great art, who also was his apprentice, he Summo tecto deiecit. For his crime, in order to evade the punishment, he was exiled to Crete, where Minos ruled. King asked Daedalus to make a jail for Minotaur, monstruos humanoid made from bull. So the maker, built a maze, a great building, including therefore countless deceptions and a road full of obstacles, so monster doesnt run away.

    Is it better now? Thanks for your help, its greatly appretiated. I'm just hoping I got it right this time... :]
  12. Cinefactus Censor

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    I don't know where you are getting saw his nephew's first great art from.

    The text is:
    qui primus serram invenerat
    invenio can mean to invent.

    qui and primus both refer to nepotem

    For the last time! Daedalus was not exiled to Crete. He abiit

    Ob is not for, but on account of

    notissiumus is superlative

    what case is omnium? It cannot be by all.

    summo means the top, e.g summa cum laude
    tectum means roof, or here, a building

    the last bit is clear enough, but you haven't translated impediebant. If you are translating to English, then run away is not the best phrase to use.
  13. FelixD New Member

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    Damn, I'm now confused even more. I'm havin an half an 'our more to finish this and then I must go. Can't you just correct my mistakes cause I simply dont get it... I dont know what a "superlative" is... If I translate this text good enough for the "2", which is worst positive mark here, i'm finished with latin in my whole life. I wont study it at the university, and what I get from this translation is my final mark for this year and in the next year I don't have latin as a subject. Maybe the biggest problem is that I'm translating from latin to serbian, then from serbian to english and then your corrections from english to serbian and then to latin lol. :) Please, can you just correct me. You see that I dont know anything, so whats the point in trying to make me finish it by myself when I clearly dont know it. :S Non omnia possumus omnes! :D
  14. Bitmap Civis Illustris

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    that would be unfair towards your fellow students who have to come up with the solution on their own
  15. Bitmap Civis Illustris

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    he probably misunderstood your hint concerning saw (the tool) which he mixed up with he/she/it saw (the verb)
  16. FelixD New Member

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    Ok, is it better now? Sorry for the last post, I'm very very nervous at the moment. :S I still dont know what summo notissimus means, tried googling and all...

    Daedalus the Athenian was famous maker well known by all, it is said that much science he invented, he learned it from the goddess of Athena. Because he was burning inside of anger and jelousy, when he saw his nephew invented saw, who also was his apprentice, he threw him from a top of the roof. On account of his crime, in order to evade the punishment, he departed to Crete, where Minos ruled. King asked Daedalus to make a jail for Minotaur, monstruos humanoid made from bull. So the maker, built a maze, a great building, including therefore countless deceptions and a road full of obstacles to prevent monster from exiting it.
  17. FelixD New Member

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    Not in this country... X)
  18. Cinefactus Censor

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    It is not perfect, but fairly close.
  19. FelixD New Member

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    Ty very much, I couldn't have done this without you. Will come back to say results... :)
  20. Nikolaos schmikolaos

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    I'll go ahead and toss this in there, to help him make sense of your hints - notissimus is "most famous"/"best known" (superlative) and omnium is "of all" (genitive).

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