Inspirational I own myself

By J.M, in 'English to Latin Translation', Jun 15, 2019.

  1. J.M Active Member

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    Greetings,
    Today I would like the phrase "I own myself" or as the Gaelic would say "Tha mi leam fhìn" (Issacus knowns what I'm talking about) to be translated into Modern Latin if possible,
    Thank you as always,
    J.M
  2. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    Sum meus.
  3. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    Oh, like that? Ok, more like Ego meorum solus sum meus amicus.
  4. J.M Active Member

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    Thank you for your quick reply Issacus,
    J.M
  5. Bitmap Civis Illustris

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    By Modern Latin, do you mean the internet meaning of "self-owned"? :D
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  6. Gregorius Textor Active Member

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    Maybe this is a bit indirect, but what about Līber sum? I have in mind the contrast, more apparent in ancient times, with servus, who is owned by another. I, too, am unsure what you mean by "Modern Latin."
  7. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    I'm free? It works. But I gave different things because "Tha mi leam fhìn" is like "I'm alone."
    I agree.

    Contemporary/Neo-Latin, I think- just like Classical, but with neologisms and newer things.
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  8. Gregorius Textor Active Member

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    I would never have guessed that, since I don't know Gaelic and, in English, "I'm alone" is very different from "I own myself." But in that case, how about "sōlus sum"?
  9. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    Solus sum is good for that, but I'm not sure if J.M wants "I'm alone" or "I own myself" really, so it's up to presence I suppose.
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  10. Gregorius Textor Active Member

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    Oh, sorry, Issachus, you already said something like that but with more words:


    But what is the function of meorum here? I see it as the genitive plural of meus, but how does it fit in?
    "I ... alone am my friend"? I don't see a plural noun to which meorum could apply.
  11. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    It's a direct quote from Terence, commonly translated as "I myself am the only friend I have." Literally speaking, I suppose it's "Of mine (gen. pl.) I am the only friend."
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  12. Gregorius Textor Active Member

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    I see. Sort of. I was wondering "of mine what?" Maybe "of mine friends"? Could it be a genitive of the whole, meaning something like "Among my friends, I am the only one"? But I suppose we can leave the "what" as something indefinite, if necessary.

    Or maybe it refers to something in the previous sentence?

    Ah! Is this the passage? (Phormio, Actus IV, lines 585-7)
    Since he's just been referring to his wife, I think I would translate that last part as "for I among my family I alone am mine (or I alone am my friend)."
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  13. Issacus Divus Sunu Reordcyningas

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    I agree.
  14. J.M Active Member

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    Greetings,
    Both translations are of great use and help,
    Thank you,
    J.M
  15. Gregorius Textor Active Member

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    You're welcome, J.M. It's been fun.
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  16. J.M Active Member

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    It has for me too... A lot to write down
    J.M
    :bliss:

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