Latin/Latin Dictionary only.

By gily, in 'Latin Language Resources', Dec 14, 2011.

  1. gily New Member

    Hi, I'm looking for Latin/Latin dictionary. Latin Dictionary in which Latin entries/words will be explained in Latin language only.
  2. Nikolaos schmikolaos

    • Censor
    I've never read one, so I can't vouch for any. However, there is one called Glossaria Latina, and then I think Thesaurus Linguae Latinae (which was started in the late 1800s and will not be finished until around 2050, but whose current progress is available in a number of volumes) is written in Latin. If it isn't, then it certainly seems like a vain endeavor, given the rapid evolution of language.
  3. scrabulista Consul

    • Consul
    Location:
    Tennessee
    There was at least one around when I was in school many years ago. I don't recall who the editors were but you should be able to find one in a good academic library. See viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4261
  4. Quasus Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
    Location:
    Coimbra, Portugal
    Just one word: Forcellini. Yes, it is bulky. :D Yet it’s one of the most comprehensive Latin dictionaries, with a long history. I really enjoy using it. I use an AutoHotkey script for searching words; in fact, this or that automatisation is a must. We could discuss this.
  5. gily New Member

    Thank you guys for answering and let me further clarify my original question.

    Whenever I study foreign language I always try to use as soon as possible that language native dictionary. Not only dictionary but also a good Grammar book written in that language.

    This approach in the past always tremendously helped me speed-up learning process.
    I was able to learn fluently a few languages using that method ( English, русский, 日本語).

    A few months ago I decided to learn Latin. I'm simply stunned that I cannot find anywhere on internet a small/medium size Latin ONLY dictionary. Latin dictionary where words explanations are given in Latin only.

    Just like in various dictionaries below that I used in the past:
    In English: Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English - by AS Hornby http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Advanced-L ... 447&sr=8-1

    In Japanese: 外国人のための楽しい日本語辞典 [単行本]
    ISBN 4-385-13698-X It is japanese Amazon site http://www.amazon.co.jp

    In Russian: Словарь русского языка - С.И. Ожегов
    ISBN 5-392-00741-0
    http://www.editeurs-reunis.fr/shop/img/ ... -large.jpg
    http://www.books.ru/books/slovar-russko ... ka-492736/

    I simply refused to believe that something similar does not exist in Latin.
    I’ll appreciate any help in finding such a beast.
  6. Quasus Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
    Location:
    Coimbra, Portugal
    Then why not Forcellini? :noclue:
  7. Nikolaos schmikolaos

    • Censor
    I had to read the response twice to see the key part:

    Most (all?) pure-Latin endeavors are quite ambitious - an abridged dictionary might be hard to find.
  8. gily New Member

    Is there any chance that Forcellini-Lexicon Totius Latinitatis will be printed/published and sold in bookstores again?
  9. gily New Member


    Could you tell me more about your AutoHotkey script?
  10. Quasus Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
    Location:
    Coimbra, Portugal
    In fact, I use a single script for a number of dictionaries; here is it’s Forcellini part.

    You can download AutoHotkey from http://www.autohotkey.com. You save the code as an .ahk file and run it with AHK (in fact, you’ll probably want to set AutoHotkey.exe as the default for .ahk files).

    I attach four text files with indices. I them from a bookmarked PDFs. You should download the files and provide their full paths as well as the paths of the volumes at the beginning of the script.

    But that’s not all. You have to find out the name of the little edit of your default PDF viewer that contains the page number. You can either use Window Spy (it is launched via the context menu of a running AHK script) or just tell me which viewer you use.

    I downloaded my copy of Forcellini from another place, but I hope that the pages are exactly the same. I hope the page numbering is the same, too. Anyway, tell me if you have troubles with any volumes.

    I’m afraid it all looks cumbersome, but I assure you it will be very convenient once we’ve adjusted it. And I hope you’ll enjoy AHK, too. :) Feel free to ask me if any question arises.

    Code:
    #NoTrayIcon
    
    ; FULL PATHS HAVE TO BE PROVIDED!
    
    ; The volumes
    DictPath1 = ...\Forcellini_AC.pdf
    DictPath2 = ...\Forcellini_DK.pdf
    DictPath3 = ...\Forcellini_LQ.pdf
    DictPath4 = ...\Forcellini_RZ.pdf
    
    ; The index files
    DictIndex1 = ...\Forcellini1.txt
    DictIndex2 = ...\Forcellini2.txt
    DictIndex3 = ...\Forcellini3.txt
    DictIndex3 = ...\Forcellini4.txt
    
    SetTitleMatchMode, 2
    
    ; creating index
    PageCount = 0
    Loop, Read, %DictIndex1%
    	PageCount++, Page%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 4, 3)+1, Word%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 8)
    Loop, Read, %DictIndex2%
    	PageCount++, Page%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 4, 3), Word%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 8)
    Loop, Read, %DictIndex3%
    	PageCount++, Page%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 4, 4), Word%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 9)
    Loop, Read, %DictIndex4%
    	PageCount++, Page%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 4, 4), Word%PageCount% := SubStr(A_LoopReadLine, 9)
    
    ; creating GUI
    Gui, Add, Edit, vLookup
    Gui, Add, Button, Section Default, OK
    Gui, Add, Button, ys gClose, Close
    Gui, Show
    
    
    
    Return
    
    
    ButtonOK:
    Gui, Submit, NoHide
    CurrentWord = %Lookup%
    GuiControl, Focus, Lookup
    Gosub, OK3
    Return
    
    
    OK3: ; Forcellini
    i = 0
    Loop
    {
    	i++
    	If (Word%i% >= Lookup) Or (i = PageCount)
    		Break
    }
    Clipboard := Page%i%
    If (i <= 932)
    {
    	VolumePath := DictPath1
    	Volume = Forcellini_AC
    } 
    Else If (i <= 1905)
    {
    	VolumePath := DictPath2
    	Volume = Forcellini_DK
    }
    Else If (i <= 2935)
    {
    	VolumePath := DictPath3
    	Volume = Forcellini_LQ
    }
    Else
    {
    	VolumePath := DictPath4
    	Volume = Forcellini_RZ
    }
    IfWinNotExist, %Volume%
    	Run, %VolumePath%
    WinWait, %Volume%
    WinActivate, %Volume%
    
    ; Edit1 for SumatraPDF
    ; Use the Window Spy to detect the name of the page number edit of your default PDF viewer
    
    ControlFocus, Edit1, A
    SendInput, ^{sc1E}^{sc2F}{Enter}
    Return
    
    Close:
    ExitApp
    return
    

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  11. meisenimverbis Member

    Location:
    Rio de Janeiro

    I've always wanted one. Not much, but the closest I've found, and aparently useful is the Victionarium... https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Victionarium:Pagina_prima

    You throw a word in Latin, and there comes an explaination in Latin of that word. (With --unfortunately-- translations below, but as they --fortunately-- come bellow, you can not pay attention to them.)

    I'd like to have a verborum copia in paper, but for now I guess this is it.

    Cheers from sunny Rio, Br.
    Gus
  12. Quasus Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
    Location:
    Coimbra, Portugal
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  13. rothbard Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
    Location:
    London
    Godmy's searchable Forcellini is one of the greatest Latin resources available on the internet. I wouldn't recommend using any other dictionary, except possibly as fallback, when in a hurry, or when internet access isn't available.
  14. meisenimverbis Member

    Location:
    Rio de Janeiro

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