Let us hear and analyse each other's Latin pronunciation

By Godmy, in 'Pronunciation, Spelling and Listen to Latin', Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Iáson Cívis Illústris

    • Civis Illustris
    In most cases the shortened final -o is from 'iambic' shortening, isn't it? In later texts (eg. Symphosius' riddles) it spreads to ō after a heavy syllable as well, but this is hardly a classical phenomenon. mihi is found very early, and is pretty much regular; at least, 38x in the Eclogues vs. mihī 3x (of course, the former might just be more convenient in hexameter). crēdō is obviously rarer in Vergil, but the two instances in the Georgics and Eclogues both scan - -.
  2. Bitmap Civis Illustris

    • Civis Illustris
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    Cygnea, Gena

    From the examples I gave above, only cito could be explained by iambic shortening. Words like nemo, Sulmo, Naso, nescio are not iambic.
    And regarding iambic shortening: As I said, that feature did not just seem to be a poetic licence, but something that seemed pretty common in regular speech as well, to the extent that some formerly iambic words (like modo or ego) had completely dropped the length on the o by Augustean times.

    I've also noticed that some dictionaries (like Georges or Lewis & Short) give words like crēdo without the length on the o.
  3. Godmy A Monkey

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    Alright, I read your explanations properly today... fair enough!

    Btw., if a discussion about this phenomenon is going to develop in here, could the next debater start a new thread in the pronunciation section? Let's leave this one for recordings and reviews (also, so I don't get notifications).

  4. What a good reading that was!
  5. Whoa...
  6. Godmy A Monkey

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    Please, keep the posts to this thread to MP3 uploads and reviews, thank you.
    Last edited by Godmy, Apr 20, 2019
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  7. Of course. ( I'm sorry if this post itself breaks that.)
    Only reacting to his singing. It reminded Me of a war song in a Vulgar type of Latin.
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  8. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    Rio de Janeiro
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  9. Pacifica grammaticissima

    • Civis Illustris
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    Belgium
    I've used similar sites before, but not that exact one, I think.
  10. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    Rio de Janeiro
    (I believe I need a better microphone...) :think:
  11. I prefer the built-in programs.
  12. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    Issacus... is that you?? (Of course it is, Gustavo!...) I didn't recognize you at first, because of the new picture... o_O
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  13. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    Cogitatio prima. (I'm sorry about that... :neutral: )¹


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    ¹brevity, lack of interesting things to say, doubt, and lack of quality for lack of equipment (and whatever else...)
  14. I can't listen to it right now, but I probably know what your point is. Are you sure? If you're using Windows 10, you can press the windows key, type "voice", and a recorder will pop up. ( I'm sorry I keep mentioning that to you, lol. I'm just an advocate for it, I guess.) But whatever works for you works.
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  15. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    (Microphone, I believe, is the main (tecnical) problem. (Lack of confidence the psychological problem.))
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  16. Godmy A Monkey

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    I'm sorry, but I need you to send an mp3 (or other compressed audio file, wma, ogg). I also hope it's something under 1 minute and preferably a text which has been already published in this thread and thus marked for accents and long vowels (otherwise I would ask you to write also down what you read and mark the accents and long vowels the way I did). Thanks for respecting the rules! When you upload one, I'll gladly react. Until then, see you later!
    Last edited by Godmy, Jun 30, 2019
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  17. meisenimverbis Active Member

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    Rio de Janeiro
    Somebody posted something in this format. I thought it was easier. I'm really sorry...

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