Origin of word Vatican and other false cognates

By aleena, in 'General Latin Chat (English)', Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Pacifica grammaticissima

    • Civis Illustris
    We could... But they don't have the same resemblance as "dog" and "dog" or "gudaga".
  2. Iohannes Aurum Technicus Auxiliarius

    • Technicus Auxiliarius
    Meanwhile, the Greek and Nahuatl words for "god" are very similar. They are also false cognates, unless we find evidence of Atlanteans conducting trade between the Greeks and the Nahua people, of which there are none.
  3. Eupolis Member

    What would you make of Batistuta?
    My take: ba(p)tista & -uta like astus -->astuta

    And how about Maradona & Marathon (Maratona in Italian/Portuguese)?
  4. Iohannes Aurum Technicus Auxiliarius

    • Technicus Auxiliarius
    ...or the Toronto Blue Jays player José Bautista's surname?
  5. Eupolis Member

    Any Spanish dictionary will verify that.
  6. Iohannes Aurum Technicus Auxiliarius

    • Technicus Auxiliarius
  7. Claudilla Active Member

    Chapel Hill, NC
    My goodness,, the term Vatican and Mons Vaticanus comes from the Phrygianum, the temple and quarters of the Galli, the eunuch-transvestite priests of Magna Mater (Cybele) they were permitted to leave on feriae and go out into the streets and tell fortunes: vatacinor. They also performed taurobolia and criobolia there. St Peter's is built over this old site and they are always finding this kind of thing; altars, inscriptions etc. The Vatican as an important cult center is attested by an inscription (CIL 131751 = ILS 4131) vires excepit ex a Vaticano transtulit. C.E. 160. Do read "A New Topographical Dictionary of Ancient Rome" L. Richardson
  8. Aurifex Aedilis

    • Aedilis
    That's interesting, Claudilla, but it doesn't tell us anything about the origin of the name, which is what we were concerned with.
  9. Claudilla Active Member

    Chapel Hill, NC
    Oops sorry, mustn't write so late...um the OLD has for vates: italo-celtic cf. Irish fāith (bard) then as a substantive for the god of the Vatican hill, deus Vaticanus Varro says the word comes from vagire....and therefore Greek.
  10. Imber Ranae Ranunculus Iracundus

    • Civis Illustris
    But Varro is engaging in folk-etymology, of course.

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