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Lectures by whom? Show me where you read that. They are not teaching you well.
Sure.
Fato profugus Aeneas, venit Italiam et Lavinia litora.
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Sure.
Fato profugus Aeneas, venit Italiam et Lavinia litora.
It is not that they are teaching me, I just looked random videos of lectures after you said it.
I mean what is this rule that you meantion... Why did you rearrage the sentence?
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To show you that fato profugus is injected.
Aeneas Italiam, fato profugus, et Lavinia litora venit
in other words, it is made an absolute and should be treated as one single word. For this reason, a pause between fato and profugus is not elegant, even inadmissible. And for this same reason the line is written with breaks in the second and fourth foot.
Mah, don't know.
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if you don't know but want to know. Get a good book.
Ok.
I fear I'm not equipped to resolve this dispute, and can only give my own inexpert opinion. It seems to me that the principal caesura is after profugus. I suppose the position of a secondary caesura is arguable, but I honestly don't think it matters that much.
Actually I wish I could do them as you...
Don't you roll them in french?
No, absolutely not. And I am for the life of me unable to roll them correctly. It's a shame because most languages seem to have rolled r's. Why does the world like them so much?
Oh, I thought you had it too. 
Some varieties of French do, though I think it's typically uvular rather than alveolar like Italian or Spanish. Mostly not, though.Oh, I thought you had it too.
Who was talking about German? I've only ever heard German trilled r in opera and stage plays. Or don't you mean the alveolar trill?
I couldn't really tell, I don't listen much french around. Both her and Lucius Aelius seem to say it good to me.
German r's actually seem to me to be the closest ones to French r's, though not exactly the same.
Me, seriously?? Well, thanks. Though it seems to me I only manage to make some hybrid sound between rolled r and l...Both her and Lucius Aelius seem to say it good to me.
They're both uvular.
Hmm not sure, it seemed quite natural to me. I would say like that too I think.
Maybe Lucius rolls them too much too lol.
Well, great then, if what I uttered with so much effort sounds natural.
This discussion made me think of it; yes PP, it is similar to French. Uvular is guttural, right?