How would an ablative absolute help the situation if there is no participle available?Or ablatives absolute.
How would an ablative absolute help the situation if there is no participle available?Or ablatives absolute.
I guess she means if the participle were transitive and had a direct object, in which case the direct object could be made into an ablative absolute with passive meaning. It wouldn't work with Infacundus's particular example, though.How would an ablative absolute help the situation if there is no participle available?
I mean a passive ablative absolute instead the non-extant active past participle.How would an ablative absolute help the situation if there is no participle available?
Ah, ok. Unless I suppose the person was running a race, or such.I guess she means if the participle were transitive and had a direct object, in which case the direct object could be made into an ablative absolute with passive meaning. It wouldn't work with Infacundus's particular example, though.
Actually, impersonal passive ablative absolutes aren't inexistent, though I recognize they aren't the most common construction and in this case I would very much hesitate as to the idiomaticity of curso abiit.I guess she means if the participle were transitive and had a direct object, in which case the direct object could be made into an ablative absolute with passive meaning. It wouldn't work with Infacundus's particular example, though.
I was just wondering about this, actually, and trying to figure out how it might work. So this would simply be a one-word ablative absolute (curso)? I suppose it would need to be...Actually, impersonal passive ablative absolutes aren't inexistent, though I recognize they aren't the most common construction and in this case I would very much hesitate as to the idiomaticity of curso abiit.
Though apparently "inexistent" is a valid word (I'd never heard it, actually) "nonexistent" is by far more frequent in English. (Just so you know.)Actually, impersonal passive ablative absolutes aren't inexistent
You mean something like, say, dubio num faciendum aliquid sit necne, non facio, (very literally) "It being doubtful whether something must be done or not, I don't do it"?I think I've seen something similar with dubio as well, which I figured was technically an adjective.
Ok, I said as much myself.I was well aware of impersonal ablatives absolute, so there was no need to furnish examples. I didn't mention them because they're unlikely to be used in the kind of expression we're dealing with and are far from common in the first place.
Like me, so thank you (I mean, I'd guessed that they could exist and was about to ask, but had never seen one...)I didn't furnish the example for you in particular, but just for anyone who might not know about it and might be interested.
The example I had in mind turned out to be this:You mean something like, say, dubio num faciendum aliquid sit necne, non facio, (very literally) "It being doubtful whether something must be done or not, I don't do it"?
'it [not at all] being doubtful...'...duae quinqueremes, haud cuiquam dubio quin hostium essent...
If I remember correctly, Livy tends to use words like dubio and incerto as impersonal ablatives absolute quite a bit. Is this from Livy as well?The example I had in mind turned out to be this:
'it [not at all] being doubtful...'
Retards, perhaps.It stops fogetfulness.