Das ist gut zu wissen. Und wie leut dein deutsch Unterricht? Hoffentlich machst du bedutungsame Fortschritte. Ich drueck dir die Daumen auf jedem Falls
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Where angels fear to tread . . . but here goes:
Und wie (? laeuft, geht?) dein Deutsch-Unterricht (or deutscher Unterricht). Hoffentlich machst du bedeutsame Fortschritte. Ich drueck dir die Daumen auf jeden Fall (or more emphatically: Auf jeden Fall drueck ich dir die Daumen.) Not sure if du and dir should have capital D.
Und wie (? laeuft, geht?) dein Deutsch-Unterricht (or deutscher Unterricht). Hoffentlich machst du bedeutsame Fortschritte. Ich drueck dir die Daumen auf jeden Fall (or more emphatically: Auf jeden Fall drueck ich dir die Daumen.) Not sure if du and dir should have capital D.
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Deutsch ist eine herausfordernde Sprache, aber ich werde nicht aufgeben.
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Alternatives ? : . . . a) der deutschen Sprachkenntnisse erreiche. b) der Deutsch-Sprachkenntnisse erreiche.
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Sorry, I corrected that incorrectly. There is an e too many in Deutsch
It should be "ein ausreichendes Niveau an Deutsch-Sprachkenntnissen"
German doesn't use the partitive genitive here, but a prepositional expression.
Don't ask me why :< German seems to run counter-intuitively to Latin in that regard:
multitudo hominum = eine Menge von/an Leuten
gradus scientiae = ein Niveau an (Sprach)kenntnis
quis nostrum? = wer von uns?
but:
quot homines = Wie viele Menschen or Wie viele der Menschen ("quot hominum" would be rather rare in Latin)
Also but:
pars hominum = ein Teil der Menschen.
I don't know if there is any concrete rule ... it seems to be a matter of collocations.
Regarding Sprachkenntnisse:
Deutsch-Sprachkenntnisse is right, but it sounds rather clunky.
deutsche Sprachkenntnisse is grammatically possible, but I don't think many people would say that.
Most people would say "Sprachkenntnisse in Deutsch", I think.
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I would define it as a person who has and displays a lot of potential and ambition. So if Cameron had an unexpectedly successful political career, you would describe him as an Überflieger.
Overachiever also seems ok to me ... the word always implied a tiny bit more to me, though. Probably mainly because it is stressed on the ü rather than the ie (and you could stress it on the ie with a different meaning).
Overachiever also seems ok to me ... the word always implied a tiny bit more to me, though. Probably mainly because it is stressed on the ü rather than the ie (and you could stress it on the ie with a different meaning).
Just come across this in Duden: ueberfliegen:
mit den Augen schnell über etwas hingehen und dabei bestrebt sein, das Wesentliche zu erfassen
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Thinking about your comment: <<Probably mainly because it is stressed on the ü rather than the ie (and you could stress it on the ie with a different meaning). >>
I'd agree - hence some ambiguity and open to interpretation.
mit den Augen schnell über etwas hingehen und dabei bestrebt sein, das Wesentliche zu erfassen
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- einen Text rasch überfliegen
- ich habe das Flugblatt, den Brief nur kurz überflogen
Thinking about your comment: <<Probably mainly because it is stressed on the ü rather than the ie (and you could stress it on the ie with a different meaning). >>
I'd agree - hence some ambiguity and open to interpretation.
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The basic meaning of überfliegen is to fly over something, and there are a few different meanings that come from it.
An Überflieger is - metaphorically speaking - somebody who flies higher than anyone else.
Überfliegen as a reading technique means to quickly "fly over" a text with your eyes to get the gist of the text. But you wouldn't derive a noun from it that denotes a person who is not very interested in details ... I mean, I suppose you could do that theoretically, but Germans don't do that. And if they did, I think the noun would actually be stressed on the ie (Überflíeger) ... but that would only work if you made a very specific pun Other than that, every German will recognise the word Überflieger as something distinctly positive. I think English has the word "high-flyer", too.
An Überflieger is - metaphorically speaking - somebody who flies higher than anyone else.
Überfliegen as a reading technique means to quickly "fly over" a text with your eyes to get the gist of the text. But you wouldn't derive a noun from it that denotes a person who is not very interested in details ... I mean, I suppose you could do that theoretically, but Germans don't do that. And if they did, I think the noun would actually be stressed on the ie (Überflíeger) ... but that would only work if you made a very specific pun
Other than that, every German will recognise the word Überflieger as something distinctly positive. I think English has the word "high-flyer", too.
Nonsense. You did pretty good. Die Grammatik ist manchmal unvorhersehbar.
Gratias tibi. Grammar is all very well - but Martin Luther had his own ideas about language.
Adapted from a quote in Martin Luther's Sendbrief vom Dolmetschen
Man muß die Mutter im Hause, die Kinder auf der Gasse, den einfachen Mann auf dem Markt danach fragen und denselben auf das Maul sehen, wie sie reden, und danach übersetzen.
One should ask the mother at home, the children in the alley, the simple man at the market about it and look at their mouth and see how they talk and translate accordingly.
dem Volk aufs Maul schauen = (idiomatic) to listen to the common man.
I definitely wouldn't have guessed the meaning of the idiom.
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Zu Luthers Zeiten gab es noch keine allgemein anerkannte, standardisierte Form des Deutschen. Meines Wissens hat viel von dem, was wir heute als Standard-Dialekt bezeichnen ("Hochdeutsch" - wobei 'hoch' eher für die geographische Höhe der Region steht, in der es gesprochen wird), mit Luthers Bibelübersetzung und Einfluss zu tun.
Indeed. This article might be of interest to Issacus Divus a.o.
Wem hat Luther „aufs Maul geschaut“? – Luthers Einfluss auf die Sprache: Luther2017
„Mehr als ein paar kluge Redewendungen“ hat Martin Luther der Deutschen Sprache hinterlassen: Dank seiner Bibelübersetzung verstehen Friesen und Bayern einander heute besser.
Ik heb gelezen over het Proto-Germaans en de relatie ervan met Keltische en Italisch talen.
