Peponem cordis loco habuit

meisenimverbis

Civis Illustris
Someone in one of my communities asked what does a "heart of melon" means: is he dumb, is he stupid, is he soft hearted? Apparently Tertulianus says this of Marcion (Adv. Marcion. Lib. IV. cap. 40 Tertullianus was the refference he gave).

"Acceptum panem et distributum discipulis, corpus suum fecit 'Hoc est enim corpus meum' dicendo, id est figura corporis mei... Cur autem panem corpus suum appellat, et non magis peponem, quem Marcion cordis loco habuit, non intelligens veterem fuisse istam figuram corporis Christi."

I brought it here because I really don't know.
 
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Hemo Rusticus

Ol' Skunky McDermott
I would guess 'soft-hearted', based on the size. That is, if the heart is the seat of pity (misericordia), then he must be a very merciful bloke?

That's a pretty cool expression, really (no matter what it means).
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
Given the context, my guess would be that it means the man is stupid. Why a watermelon was specifically chosen to denote that, I have no idea.
 
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Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
A little less likely, perhaps, but I guess it could also refer to pride (the "swelling" of pride = the size of the watermelon).
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
I've just recalled something that may be relevant: in Petronius, the phrase cucurbitae caput is used as an insult, most likely meaning a stupid person. Cucurbita is defined as a "gourd" and pepo as a "watermelon or other gourd", so they're a similar kind of thing.
 

Etaoin Shrdlu

Civis Illustris
Ah, the good old all-purpose gourd. Melon? Marrow? Who knows? Given how flexible food terminology can be over various dialects, exactitude is elusive.
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
In French, a "gourde" is a clumsy, and also I guess a bit stupid, person.
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
Why does that make you sad, Bitmap?
 

Bitmap

Civis Illustris
You used to call me grosse gourde and I thought it was a term of endearment :(
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
Lol.

^ That's a joke.
 

meisenimverbis

Civis Illustris
Cabeça de melão could be an insult in Portuguese... :think:
 
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