Which prose Classical Latin author do/did you find most difficult?

Which prose Classical Latin author do/did you find most difficult?

  • Apuleius

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Caesar

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cicero

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Livy

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Petronius

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pliny (either one)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seneca Minor

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Tacitus

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Other (comment below)

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • All about the same/I didn't really find any of them difficult ;)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Just curious -- either the Latin author that you find hardest now, or (if you find them all easy now ;) ) the one that gave you most trouble as a student.

I've stuck to fairly major authors since I'm limited to ten poll options, but please comment below if your ideal choice isn't on the list.

The poll is anonymous but personal responses below are also welcome, of course. :D
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
It's somewhat hard to be really sure, because, since I have read different authors at different stages of my Latin evolution, it may be that I found more difficult some that I read earlier only because I was less experienced then, and, conversely, that I found quite easy some that I read recently, whom I would have found difficult back then. And I haven't read all authors, either (though I have read at least bits of all of those mentioned in the poll). But still, I voted Apuleius.
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
It's somewhat hard to be really sure, because, since I have read different authors at different stages of my Latin evolution, it may be that I found more difficult some that I read earlier only because I was less experienced then, and, conversely, that I found quite easy some that I read recently, whom I would have found difficult back then. And I haven't read all authors, either (though I have read at least bits of all of those mentioned in the poll). But still, I voted Apuleius.
Yes, that was my choice as well. ;)
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Fifty bucks on ol' Chickpea
Really? Out of all the authors I listed I actually find Cicero easiest (apart from possibly Caesar; but then Caesar has a lot of military vocabulary that I'm sometimes unfamiliar with.)

Interestingly, a number of people from my Latin class told me that they found both Seneca Minor and (especially) Petronius far easier than Cicero, whereas I actually found them both substantially more difficult (not really Seneca anymore; but still Petronius because of all the slang words and the colloquial style. I'm not great with slang in any language :D)
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
But still, I voted Apuleius.
...Now I'm wondering if you were just being sadistic when you recommended Apuleius to me, back when I'd just been studying a few months... :p
 

Pacifica

grammaticissima
Staff member
Yes, that was my choice as well. ;)
Ah, I thought you were the other one who'd voted for him. ;)
...Now I'm wondering if you were just being sadistic when you recommended Apuleius to me, back when I'd just been studying a few months... :p
Not really. If I recall correctly, I did warn you that it wasn't really beginners' stuff, didn't I? But I mentioned it nonetheless because I'd enjoyed it.
 

Cinefactus

Censor
Staff member
My vote is for Horace...
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Callaina's asking about prose. ;)
Yes -- there are just far too many options if poetry's tossed into the mix as well, and anyway it's like comparing apples and oranges; both are difficult in their own way. I'll probably make another thread for poetry later.
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Well, you can still "vote" by commenting at any rate. Which prose author do you find most difficult?
 

Cinefactus

Censor
Staff member
I haven't read all on the list, but of those I have, I found Livy the most difficult.
 

Aurifex

Aedilis
Staff member
Livy is definitely difficult at times.

I've mentioned before a teacher of mine who once told the class that you weren't actually meant to make perfect sense of Livy; the idea was that Livy's prose was impressionistic, and in places you were meant to get just an impression of what he was saying and no more. My teacher's claim certainly didn't make much of an impression on me.
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
My teacher's claim certainly didn't make much of an impression on me.
On the other hand, it obviously made a large enough impression to cause you to quote it at least twice on the forum... :p
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Livy is definitely difficult at times.
But yes, I'll second that. Probably right after Apuleius on my list (on the other hand, I haven't read all that much of either, so with some more practice they might get a bit less daunting at any rate.)
 

Aurifex

Aedilis
Staff member
On the other hand, it obviously made a large enough impression to cause you to quote it at least twice on the forum... :p
Yes, and it made me want to prove him wrong and get to proper grips with Latin. To be fair to the teacher, there are certainly plenty of obscure passages in Livy.
 

Callaina

Feles Curiosissima
Yes, and it made me want to prove him wrong and get to proper grips with Latin. To be fair to the teacher, there are certainly plenty of obscure passages in Livy.
Just curious what level this teacher was teaching at (secondary school, university...)?
 
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