"Best" by what standard? (That of Cicero? Donatus? Erasmus et al?)
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"Best" by what standard? (That of Cicero? Donatus? Erasmus et al?)
I think that by standards of "classical" Latin as used as a functional language by non-native speakers. Erasmus would be a great example I guess.
Of course, it's hard to say that somebody writes the best, but Luigi Miraglia is a pretty good [active] Latinist, I wouldn't dare to question that Tongue.gif "(1) Tongue out :p")
Of course, it's hard to say that somebody writes the best, but Luigi Miraglia is a pretty good [active] Latinist, I wouldn't dare to question that
You are leaving ? I thought it was the beginning of the school year.
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OK, I've had to answer my own question here. Apparently, http://www.brooklyn.cuny.edu/web/academics/centers/lginst.php?utm_source=Website&utm_medium=LatinGreekInstitute&utm_campaign=LatinGreekInstituteRedirect
My favourite Percy Grainger anecdote is the one about him throwing a ball over a house, running through the house and out the back, then catching the ball on the other side. It seems rather improbable, but if it's possible, then surely it could be duplicated.
Out of interest, do they speak with vowel lengths, in the manner of Wilfried Stroh? Do they teach you the vowel lengths at the Academy?
No, the only downside of the Academy is that save maybe a few young teachers (who occasionally try to compensate for it), the pronunciation issue is so loose in the academy that one would almost think they don't even consider it a discipline of the Latin language at all. Big mistake! On the other hand, when the pronunciation Nazis (as potentially myself : p) are gone or suppressed, it may lead to a better/more-relaxed atmosphere and possibly better overall fluency of everybody (as if when many people from different countries speak English each with his own accent and they don't mind much as long as they understand each other) - consider that sometimes there are visiting even like 10-12 years old children (boys) from some specialized schools in Europe or Russia (I know about one case of little Russian students from Sankt Petersburg) who can speak Latin quite fluently for communication, I don't suppose anybody is interrupting the little kids all the time to correct the vowel lengths etc. ; P
I'm pretty torn on this issue when it comes to the Academy. Otherwise, as I said, there is very very little I could criticize about both their Latin or their Latin teaching, from the little I know.
(Luigi Miraglia, while supremely speaking genius Latinist, is the adverse example in this issue...)
I'm pretty torn on this issue when it comes to the Academy. Otherwise, as I said, there is very very little I could criticize about both their Latin or their Latin teaching, from the little I know.
(Luigi Miraglia, while supremely speaking genius Latinist, is the adverse example in this issue...)
The only way the Academy actively encourages everybody to both pronounce the words correctly and occasionally even to contract them correctly is via their choir where classical poems are written music for and sung/played.
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More can be found by searching for Tyrtarion or here https://www.youtube.com/user/vivariumnovum/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p
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More can be found by searching for Tyrtarion or here https://www.youtube.com/user/vivariumnovum/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p
I see the point. I think I have more objection regarding the vowel lengths than concerning, say, Italianate pronunciation of C or TI etc., though, simply because it's a matter of phonology, not just phonetics.
Obviously, I can see why one wouldn't want to discourage people by correcting them all the time, but I don't really see a difference between correcting vowel length and eg. inaccurate use of the subjunctive.
Obviously, I can see why one wouldn't want to discourage people by correcting them all the time, but I don't really see a difference between correcting vowel length and eg. inaccurate use of the subjunctive.
Yes, they have a person translating it while it is happening. Last time there was a technical problem and they couldn't activate the function on the program, and another time I was really enjoying it so I decided to listen to the professor in Italian because I liked what he was saying.
Just wanted to post the link in case anyone was interestred in the lectures anyway.
Just wanted to post the link in case anyone was interestred in the lectures anyway.
That's what I thought, however since the lectures are most likely prepared beforehand, I would have thought that the Latin version would be as well.
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